I don’t understand this narrative being pushed that The Rise of Skywalker will somehow undo or “fix” Rian Johnson’s creative choices in The Last Jedi. If Lucasfilm felt so insecure about where TLJ left off, why would Rian Johnson still be doing his trilogy?

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  • I mean, heck we know that one of the reasons why Colin Trevorrow was let go was because he wanted Luke to live at the end of TLJ.

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  • Replying to @AdamLanceGarcia

    There's some confusion about who decides what. Doesn't each director have Lucasfilm's blessing to make creative decisions with the story? If JJ wants to bring back Kylo's helmet for some thematic reason he can. I'm not sure what that has to do with Rian. JJ said he'll honor VIII.

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  • Replying to @AlderaanianR

    They do, but if LF feels a director’s vision doesn’t fit with their own they get pushed out the door.

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  • Replying to @AdamLanceGarcia

    Exactly. And Rian got invited back. So I too am confused where the idea that Rian's gonna be let go is coming from.

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  • Replying to @AlderaanianR

    I think it boils down to “haters gonna hate.”

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  • Replying to @AdamLanceGarcia

    A lot of it comes from the trailer. Heavy on nostalgia, instead of "let the past die". Luke's saber and kylo's helmet both repaired. Luke's narration sounds nothing like "the Jedi order needs to end" and the 3 main heroes are together. All of these directly oppose TLJ.

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  • Replying to @jcgillespie85

    2 things: The villain said "let the past die." He was wrong. Luke said right before he died "I will not be the last Jedi." Did you watch the movie?

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  • Replying to @AdamLanceGarcia

    What happens in the movie to show the villain was wrong for saying that? Luke said that at the end.... Took the whole film to get him there, most of the film he's not that guy. Of course I saw the movie, but if you want to be condescending than this conversation can end now.

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  • Replying to @jcgillespie85

    Kylo loses. Rey takes the books from the tree to learn from the past. Luke accepts that the universe needs the Jedi, and to learn from his failures. That's called a "character arc." It's not condescending, it's just stating facts about the movie.

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  • Replying to @AdamLanceGarcia

    I understand the character arc, but Luke not doing anything for the majority of the film is what disappointed fans. I fail to see how Kylo losing a battle implies his position of "let the past die" is wrong. While I do think he's wrong, there's nothing to show it.

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  • Replying to @jcgillespie85

    I loved what they did with Luke and I've been a fan my whole life. As to Kylo, both Luke and Rey end the films saying we can't let the past die, that the Jedi need to and will live. Plus TROS has a direct callback TLJ: "No one's ever really gone."

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  • Replying to @AdamLanceGarcia

    I loved the Last Jedi but I think Rian is not doing his trilogy. He will bow out in a couple of years due to "creative differences"

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  • Replying to @calexakolive

    That doesn't track with his working relationship with Kennedy. If anything he's proven to mess very well with Lucasfilm in a way that JJ, Gareth, etc. haven't.

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  • Replying to @AdamLanceGarcia @calexakolive

    I loved his vision of SW. I put R1, TLJ in my top tier with ANH, ESB. I put TFA with that next tier, which includes Return.

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  • Replying to @TarsesSimon @AdamLanceGarcia @calexakolive

    I just don't get the hate, unless its insecure people who feel like they were bashed for liking Star Wars and want payback (which is stupid) or have this overdeveloped se se of ownership of what Star Wars is and can't let anyone else have a different opinion.

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  • Paul
    24 days ago

    Replying to @TarsesSimon @AdamLanceGarcia @calexakolive

    I don’t get the love TLJ gets, only good thing was Luke/Rey and Kylo/Rey scenes.

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  • Replying to @paulfs83 @AdamLanceGarcia @calexakolive

    You're welcome to your opinion. Personally, I think it is the most bold Star Wars movie ever. They took so many risks, for so many of the right reasons. I think a lot of people wanted to see 30 year old Luke Skywalker. That's not what this trilogy is about.

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  • Replying to @TarsesSimon @paulfs83 and 2 others

    I loved Rogue One because it wasn't straightforward white hat/black hat. You had real moral dilemmas within the rebellion. Same thing with Holdo and Leia v Poe, etc.

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