There were allegations of money changing hands, also, which were being looked into by the ethics committee for the Conference.
And debunked. That accusation was baseless
Not baseless. It was unable to be substantiated. There's a difference
It was refuted the very next day by a minister that had publicly supported a different outcome than the Traditional plan. The only people complaining are folks that dont like the outcome.
I have not read any of these refutations. I'm trying to get to the truth, not discuss the outcome. The story the young woman was telling on Twitter is not consistent with a currency exchange. Either someone changed their story, or the currency exchange was a different incident.
I am told someone was making change as a favor and someone else looking on misinterpreted this as a payoff. Let all investigations proceed. Don’t take this as an official report. My information is two steps removed from the actual events, but I trust the source.
Here is the tweet I referenced: https://twitter.com/RitterChris/status/1100865945331994626 … I trust that Rev Ritter wouldn't put it out there if he didn't believe it.
I hadn't seen that, thanks. I'd heard the complaint at the time plus a report from a couple who also saw a delegate receiving cash. But of course if someone made change for them & they missed the 1st part of the transaction they may have misinterpreted.
There were several different incidents reported. None could be substantiated, according to the ethics committee. This latest thing is a new development.
This is NOT the Methodist Church I was raised in. We were inclusive, open, welcoming, kind, compassionate, not hyper-judgemental. Disappointed in the shenanigans involved, more disappointed they would even vote on such an issue. This ugliness is NOT the church I know.
It’s my understanding that it was non-North American conferences that really pushed for the anti-LGBTQ agenda. Definitely Africa. (Maybe So. American ones, too, given the history & prevalence of Catholicism there?) I’d rather see the UMC split up than have it bow to intolerance.
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I. Can’t. Even. 😳
Thank you for your work and bringing this to light in the most public way, @elizabethjdias. It hurts, yet needed to happen.
I think the bigger story here is that the US Methodist churches on their own WOULD pass the ONE CHURCH plan. I’d love to see a report on what percentage the US churches agree on this. I didn’t realize the vote was controlled by African countries.
It was close to 70% of US churches. The entire world-wide vote was 53 votes and the “disassociation” bill, which would let churches peacefully and amicably leave while keeping their buildings, failed by TWO votes. That’s why FOUR people illegally voting is so important
As a pastor in this church, thank you. “Nothing is hidden that won't be exposed. Nor is anything concealed that won't be made known and brought to the light.”
Thank you Thank you Thank you for your reporting. I don’t know how you did it, but I’m loving your work right now.